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Constantin  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:11:14 PM(UTC)
Constantin

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Hey guys, I was thinking we can contribute and help each other by sharing what games have a player edge.
Some of you might be amazed, but yes, some game really have no house edge, more than that, there is even player edge!
I know of a few blackjack games from 5Dimes (DGS) Casino which do have a player edge if played with the correct strategy but the edge is way to slim to worth the time spent to exploit it, and also robots are forbidden. But it is certainly worth if you look for a good gamble.

Miami Club Casino also had a video poker with 101.41% return until recently - they now changed the paytable (after this game being exposed on some other forums) and the game is now no longer profitable. - Do you guys know of any profitable games or just don't care?

Edited by user Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:13:11 PM(UTC)  | Reason: corrected a typing mistake

James  
#2 Posted : Saturday, December 06, 2014 4:49:24 PM(UTC)
James

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I guess 5Dimes has single-deck classical BJ where you can use the deck-dependent strategy? I wish I could play there, but its not easy/cheap to deposit at 5Dimes.

Bodog/Bovada use to offer +EV video poker but that got removed.

I don't think any game except Progressive jackpots and some slot tourney's offer +EV opportunities, without getting the player on the casino's shit-list! As for slot tourneys or progressive JPs, I'm not sure what the casino's view is on profitable-players who stick to these since the winnings from this don't come directly from the casino....However I'd love it if Graeme or other senior member could elaborate on this though, since I'm not sure. Perhaps being profitable playing these can get you axed too!

Edited by user Saturday, December 06, 2014 4:50:03 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Constantin  
#3 Posted : Sunday, December 07, 2014 9:37:07 AM(UTC)
Constantin

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James, 5Dimes do offer PLENTY of +EV opportunities, and not only for blackjack. (Study its in-house Cashback Revwards Program and combine that with the Gambling City Cash Back Deal!) On top of that, it does offer many +EV blackjack games.

A few ones to say it public: the 777 Diamond Jackpot Blackjack (now at $6,400) which is played at the live dealer tables and requires no side bet. It is seeded at $5,000 by the casino and rises with 1.5c with each bet placed on the table, and the minimum bet is $5. (Sadly in the past this had much better rules towards how the bets contributed to the jackpot but that's another story.) The game itself has a 0.69% house edge but when you do account the 0.3% (1.5c contribution to the Jackpot) of your $5 bet per hand and the $5,000 casino seeded money into the Jackpot and know that statistically a 21 player hand composed of 3 sevens of diamond occurs 1 in 263,420 hands (for when the dealer checks for blackjack before allowing players to hit) you will figure out that this blackjack game is +EV once the Jackpot reach $6,300 if you only play minimum bets of $5 per hand. As this is a live game, (with a 40-50% penetration) in practice you should also be able to count cards and get an extra edge. But just be careful as 5Dimes rules forbid card counting! But they want to protect themselves against players who bet minimum and when TC goes +2 start betting max table. I suppose you are more than safe if just keep betting table minimum but only count cards in order to know when to take insurance and when not to take it as this will still add a bit of EV to your bag!

A few smaller progressive blackjack games (you can found these in 5Dimes Bonus Casino - provided by the DGS software) which do require side bets of either 0.25c or $1 but which also frequently become +EV as the side bet jackpot contribution is fair and pay the Jackpot very quickly as it only requires you to hit a suited blackjack. Recently I have found a $135 jackpot of this type for a $1 side bet I have played 40-50 hands and eventually hit it when the jackpot was $149. These are very profitable if you just check them daily and remember that you should hit a suited blackjack once in 84 hands. Also you should note that the casino seed these jackpots at $75 for $1 side bets.

In the same 5Dimes DGS casino, there are many more blackjack games variations, some of which are +EV. And remember that you can play with a speed of 600-650 hands per hour if you play a multihand blackjack game. There were also known to be some +EV Video Pokers too.

Now I don't know for your depositing costs at 5Dimes. I am able to use web wallets and incur no deposit fees at all. But withdrawals are not free. These incur a $15 flat fee with the only exception being if you do submit your withdrawal request Monday between 9:00 to 13:00 EST. And this is free only one time per month. But with all those costs, $5 Dimes is a great site to play with maybe the best games offered.

Some other +EV opportunities are some of the offered Live Blackjacks. I would recommend you Pinnacle Sports Casino, its Live Blackjack has an edge of 0.35%, you can bet up to $10,000 per hand and card counting is not forbidden (like at 5Dimes). Pinnacle is also known to offer every imaginable currency and pay out your winnings within minutes. Heard no one complaining that he was barred from playing.

Winning from Tournaments, is nice but trust me that if you are skilled enough to win constantly, it will not last forever. And not because you can't keep your head over the water but because generally speaking casinos don't like winners! I've been banned from playing tournaments at several casinos just because I was a winner (and probably constantly beaten their in-house players). Read a short story on how I was barred from playing Tournaments at a few casinos featured on Gambling City. But in reality I've been barred from many more.
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James  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:54:52 AM(UTC)
James

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Hi Constantin

Thats one crazy experience being banned from Miami Club because you've beaten their in-house players. If it was me, I'd spew the story around the web like here, Wizardofodds, Casinomeister! However I'm a bit miffed as to why a casino "generally" don't like players who win when its not THEIR money the winning player is taking? Is this a general position taken at most casinos? Perhaps most casinos have in-house players then? Poker sites don't care about having winning players on their site and imagine it should be the same for slot tourneys as well for the exact same reasons.

5Dimes BJ looks interesting for sure!

Regarding Pinnacle Sports having a +EV blackjack game, is the +0.35% just using basic strategy?

I don't mind grinding out BJ games that are +ev by themselves but theirs usually a bit too much variance (and not enough penetration) for me to have the patience/time/concentration to successfully implement a successful attack that involves counting.


Constantin  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:06:22 PM(UTC)
Constantin

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James, Pinnacle Sports Casino live blackjack has a house edge of 0.35% and not player edge. But it is actually the lowest house edge you will find at any live blackjack online. And by counting cards and having the right spread, one can make serious money playing there.

But without affording a spread of at least 1 to 25 don't even think to try and beat that game. Actually 1 to 25 spread will make a breakeven game if you are not wonging. If you are half wonging (when negative counts you play only every next hand) you will have a slight edge. But full wonging is also possible (you just quit the table during the play of a hand and then return in seconds back to your place at the table) although I am pretty sure this will attract pit bosses attention. If affordable, the best I recommend is to play a 1 to 50 spread half wonging.

About tournaments, are you super sure that there are no in-house players in poker tournaments? Maybe certain rooms are fair, but not all.

Edited by user Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:11:59 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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James  
#6 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:45:09 AM(UTC)
James

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Originally Posted by: Constantin Go to Quoted Post
James, 5Dimes do offer PLENTY of +EV opportunities, and not only for blackjack. (Study its in-house Cashback Revwards Program and combine that with the Gambling City Cash Back Deal!) On top of that, it does offer many +EV blackjack games.


I just read their Cashback rewards deal. On paper, their 5% daily CB is the best if ones playing BJ. Actually I kept looking around for terms such as game-restriction since its hard to believe theyd offer any CB on their BJ games...

They also have another bonus called the MAD-BONUS. Only 20x playthrough 20% deposit bonus. They mention for eligible accounts only. I cant figure out if their referring to their North American players only rule though, or if there are other conditions.


Constantin  
#7 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2014 7:30:05 AM(UTC)
Constantin

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Originally Posted by: James Go to Quoted Post
I just read their Cashback rewards deal. On paper, their 5% daily CB is the best if ones playing BJ. Actually I kept looking around for terms such as game-restriction since its hard to believe theyd offer any CB on their BJ games...

They also have another bonus called the MAD-BONUS. Only 20x playthrough 20% deposit bonus. They mention for eligible accounts only. I cant figure out if their referring to their North American players only rule though, or if there are other conditions.




Hi James,

I don't take benefit of either of those two programs you mentioned. I think my country is not eligible for that bonus as the terms say "this reward is available for US and Canadian customers only". But in any case, were you are not clear just heads up with their live chat support.

Cheers
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jeanne  
#8 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:29:22 PM(UTC)
jeanne

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Ok....first Id like to thank all those who are extremely wise at what they do! 2nd....I play the slots online and while I dont win very often....Id like to ask a few questions to those 'IN THE KNOW"! Is this the right place to ask my questions?Eh?
jeanne  
#9 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:33:38 PM(UTC)
jeanne

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Hi!...me again....can one win on a continued basis enough to support ones living expenses? In other words, can a person support ones self by just gambling?Eh?
James  
#10 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 10:11:26 PM(UTC)
James

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Originally Posted by: jeanne Go to Quoted Post
Hi!...me again....can one win on a continued basis enough to support ones living expenses? In other words, can a person support ones self by just gambling?Eh?


Are we talking about casino gambling? If so, then my answer would be "NO", not really.
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jeanne  
#11 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 5:25:33 PM(UTC)
jeanne

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ok thanks!....ive got some questions in regards to playing online slots and would like to keep doing so for awhile...Im on a limited income and cant afford to play all the casinos that i would like....the 2 or 3 i play in each month leaves me with lots of questions....Just to name afew of these questions: When there is a listed amount of people playing at a casino...I think its nice of that casino to tell me this....On EACH game listed are also the amt. of people playing at one time....I would like to think the strategy for this is meant to help the depositer...the higher the number of players at a specific machine seems to me that those players are winning on it so the number of players will be a high number. Does that make sense or am I just flat WRONG? Heres another question: when you put a slot on autoplay for a set number of spins and stops when those spins run out....whether you hit autoplay again or push the button yourself, does the slot reset itself again or how does that work? How about the different gaming programs that the casinos use...I like that kind of variety....but would rather know the most winning..est program rather than wasting time and money learning it all the hard way....I have many questions but my hands are tired from typing just these....

Thank you your patience with me as I am just a lowly beginner at GC! OH ANY THOUGHTS ON BINGO?....any advice or knowledge you throw my way will be greatly appreciated!
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